VEGAN KETOGENIC DIET – HEALTHY?



Is a plant based keto diet healthy? I asked Dr. Joel Kahn, a leading cardiologist about this. Sign up to daily news updated: http://bit.ly/pbnWhatsapp Dominion …

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  1. I extended my telomeres by 17 years beyond my calendar age. I'm a 95% vegan starchivore. Test your telomere length before and after your chosen diets….the diet wars will come to an end once and for all.

  2. I can tell you from Esselstyn MD work Vegan keto is not better than low fat whole food plant based. For many people if they were to eat this way even plant based would end up with stents, bypass or even worse. Get your blood work checked frequently and then you will know what way of eating is tolerable and healthful. My blood for instance shows higher fat, higher risk for heart disease. Even things like dark chocolate and peanut butter are problematic.

  3. Deferring to “government support “ sure doesn’t strengthen this already weak position. Not to mention a ketogenic protocol is NOT high fat/high protein. This vid is pretty much a loser top to bottom. An emaciated argument and a real lack of informed objectivity.

  4. There is also no long term multi generational evidence of any civilisation thriving on soley a plant based diet. The only long term study is the Seventh Day Adventist covering less than 1 generation. I am wholefood plant based but this is a fact. Keto and Paleo are easy to research and critique, the book "debunking the paleo diet" is a great example The standard western diet is appalling so clearly a movement to plant based will show great benefits. We don't need all these experts to tell us that, 5 minutes research tells us that….it is the excess in meat and processed food that is causing the illness epidemic closely linked to lack of exercise and stress being a major factor in modern illnesses. I believe that we should all eat plant based but we are a living experiment. Many long term diet related health issues manifest after many years of consumption of the wrong things or not enough of the right things. I also do not except that small amounts of lean meat occasionally in any well balanced diet would so any harm and there is plenty of evidence to say it can be very good for us. I am clearly avoiding the ethical points here. The facts still remains that the longest living significant population country on the planet is Japan at life expectancy of 83.7 (Japan is ranked 2nd in the world behind Hong Kong at 84 years , but Hong Kong only has a population of 7.5m v 127m in Japan), Japan is one of the highest consumers of fish and meat but also highly vegetable dense and rice being a key staple. This number is not skewed by the Okinawa diet as this is only around 1% of the total Japanese population, and the Okinawan still eat a very small amount of fish. I stress I am plant based I am also highly educated in medicine and nutrition from a professional perspective, I simply try to balance the opinions. The Vegan movement needs to be aware that when it grows to a point of creating state financial issues, the powers that are in control will use their power and media control to discredit veganism. For all the haters that will disagree, Do some independent non bias vegan view research and please accept this is supporting comments. Final point is that any doctor that supports consuming oil needs to be challenged this is becoming a massive evidence supported danger.

  5. This keto fad is spreading. It's everywhere…Everyone I know seems to think carbs are the devil. I'm not big into conspiracy theories but it's almost like some kind of population control tactic. I'll stick to my yams and beans and greens

  6. Have you ever noticed that the vegan "experts" scientific commentary is always brief, emotional and lacking in meatiness (sorry couldn't help myself.) What I mean is there's usually no real substance to their arguments and the statements they make tend to be "self-evident truths" for which no data needs to be provided. Vegans.. with all due respect go listen to the experts on the other side of this debate like I listen to your "experts" and tell me if there's no truth to what I'm saying.

  7. There is one incredible reason why I think the Ketogenic diet is different from any other I've encountered: By exploring the Keto diet, you end up understanding how the body functions and relates to macronutrients. Keto has everything to do with insulin levels. The fact that you use ketones as fuel is due to low insulin levels, due to low amounts of glucose in the blood, due to eating less high glycemic carbs and or intermittent fasting. This is going to be the case whether you're vegan or not. For those that are meat eaters, they end up eating a lot less meat when on Keto since it's not a protein free for all like other diets.

  8. I've been triathlon training for a few months; during training I tried vegan keto for 6 weeks, then went back to my usual high carb WFPB. Keto wasn't sustainable, I was so tired even though I was getting more calories from oil, avocados, tons of nuts, etc. High carb hands down delivers the best performance and quality of life for me. I also throw a decent amount of nuts & seeds in there, so the fat definitely isn't low either. But NO OYUL! Lol

  9. Such Fire and Fury here in the vid and in the comments! For myself, I'm just gonna concentrate on cutting out the sugar and upping my colorful veggies. That's enough in my complicated life right now…

  10. Hey, I live in the mediterranean and before I switched to veganism my diet was ridiculously high in fat.
    Now that I have incorporated more fats(as non proccesed as possible) on my plate I noticed a quite big boost in overall energy levels.
    Great work PBN!

  11. I have done both vegan and plant based Keto and now I am switching back to grass fed animal protein in moderation and high in vegetables Keto. Sorry…but my body feels and beginning to see more results strength wise and I am getting leaner with more energy. I am not a sheep. I am not blinded by the nonsense people try to say what is best for my body. People stay awake and do what is best for your body. EXPERIMENT with your food intake and let YOUR body tell you what is best for you. All these organizations in any field always have hidden agendas. The macros that works best for me is…
    70% or higher Fats
    25% or lower Pro
    5% or lower in Carbs.
    The body is the TRUE expert.

  12. less than 3 minutes in, he was already flat out lying. Thousands of years, primal cultures survived, WITHOUT diabetes, heart attack etc… it wasn't until refined sugars. flours etc came along that they became obese and sick… in fact, the factory farms vegans hate exist only because of monoculture farming which is destroying the earth faster than anything else. A purely raw vegan diet may be great, but not sustainable in most of the world where grasses/grains and grazing animals take up the bulk of it… either grow grains to eat or hunt/kill the animals but avocados, cocnuts, dates. bananas etc isn't going to grow in most places… face it, the world is diverse, climates are diverse and our diets are too… not everyone should support importing tropical fruits, nor should everyone consume grains/meat… balance is sorely lacking today.

  13. I recently started doing the vegan version of the ketogenic lifestyle (was already vegan before of course;)) & trying to learn as much as possible about it. Thanks for sharing this bit!! Like your channel watching more and more of your videos:)

  14. Uh. I guess you could do vegan keto, but you need to make sure to get lots of brewer's yeast for b12.
    I have been doing keto forever plan for one year, and have been seeing a naturopath, getting blood tests for my thyroid, glucose and vitamin levels. If I stopped keto plan, I would have thyroiditis, be a diabetic and have severe IBS. I am thankful that I solved my issues through eating meats and veggies. Lots of mct oil, avocado oil, lard!!! (Yum). My blood tests are a helluva lot better than before I started. No chance of being diabetic on this program.
    Btw, I think keto diet is not a "diet". It's for life!!!
    I don't think this guy knows what he's talking about. I am doing well as shown from blood tests.

    What would the world be like if we turned those wheat, corn and soybean fields into growing vegetables and raising chickens out in the open? I think it would be grand!

  15. Hi, i tried this fad diet for 1 week and i almost pass out of too low blood pressure, blood sugar & my whole body stiffen like a plank. I had glossectomy 2 yrs ago due to tongue cancer. My whole body was rearranged by the surgeons. I wish they gave me the option of using diet instead of surgery.

  16. Glad to see some support from the plant based medical community. A Keto or low-carb diet does seem to have very positive effects around weight loss, which of course is why people jump on it. I am really excited to see the research come out of Vegan keto. If the medical community supports it, it will be a game changer for those eating a wfpb diet.

  17. I’d like to see a debate on this topic with Dr. Joel Kahn vs. Dr. Eric Berg. Dr. Berg has convincing arguments for the weight loss portion of the keto diet but not for the health/longevity arguments like Dr. Kahn has against it.

  18. vegan keto is the only thing thats ever made maintaining my weight effortless. i always pile on the pounds eating carbs and am consistently hungry (aka HANGRY). blood work is perfect after a year vegan keto.

  19. Seriously? Being in meat Keto is already challenging, adding plant base to it is just going to make your life a prison. What is the point of living when you have to restrict diet to such an extend?
    Living longer?? you mean living a lone, sad, boring life?

  20. My insulin is so messed up from having an adrenal disorder and obesity, that even whole plant food carbs spike my insulin and make me crash so hard I fall asleep after eating. I just started a vegan keto diet and feel so much better. I really believe plant food carbs are optimal nutrition, but that people with insulin issues may need to focus on a vegan keto diet to get back to a normal state before optimal nutrition works well in our bodies.

  21. SO psyched you posted this interview! I've recently begun a Vegan Keto diet and am loving the results. All plant-based. I love how their have been studies on the vegan version that support it along with some pf my favorite plant-based doctors and scientists in the community. Thanks for your channel!!

  22. My fiance and I have been WFPB for almost a year now. We both lost a ton of fat and put on muscle at the gym, but he wanted to lost a few more pounds. He tried Keto WFPB, no oil (we rarely use it anyway) for a week. For just him on the meal plan, it cost $100 and he lost about 5 lbs, most likely water weight since we usually eat about 70% carbs. He did love how he felt, said he felt less hunger/munchies, but it just isn't economical. I currently work on a cardiac floor, but not a nurse yet, so I guess my opinion doesn't matter much, but I don't believe that tricking your body into thinking it's starving or eating or eating so much fat is a good long-term idea.

  23. I've been doing Ketogenic vegan for 3months and it's the best decision I've ever done I was taking 6 medication for diabetes high blood pressure and high cholesterol and A1C was 9 now A1C is under 6 and my doctor did labs and everything is normal and has taken me off of all medications I'm so glad I did keto Vegan plus I've lost 25pounds and 50 more pounds to go 🙂

  24. Please could you program on Piers Morgan and his lack of education on the subject of veganism? Every time I see him arguing with vegans it drives me mad with his refusal to understand veganism. He thinks he is so superior and obviously thinks vegans are quite stupid. He really deserves to be ridiculed for his behaviour.

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